The measures are vital in evidence based medicine. In psychiatry they create what all therapies are measured on. The question is what do they measure? It is not illness they measure nor treat, not in the sense of a real illness.
Without measures psychological therapies could be understood as presenting the right sort of people at the right time in a person's journey in life. People like Jeff Foster might be considered psychological therapists. Gurus, sages and priests might also be seen in the same category.
Importantly, they are not driven by outcome as mesured by science. They may teach things which are used by therapists. They empower individuals rather than specifically attempt to achieve an outcome. At least the good ones do.
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